You’ve probably underbid a job, got halfway through, and realized you’re working for free. Caley Stecker from C & C Land Management (Holden, Missouri) lays out exactly how he stopped doing that — and why most contractors stay stuck because they’re scared to price like a real business.
This episode isn’t a “feel-good” story. It’s a straight-up playbook on pricing, scope control, customer expectations, and running your schedule without chaos owning you.
Takeaways:
This episode isn’t a “feel-good” story. It’s a straight-up playbook on pricing, scope control, customer expectations, and running your schedule without chaos owning you.
Takeaways:
✅ If you’re not a little nervous about your price, you’re probably too cheap. Caley explains why contractors leave money on the table trying to “stay competitive.”
✅ Hourly work punishes you for getting good. He breaks down why day-rate pricing protects your profit even when you get faster and more efficient.
✅ Your quote should include what you won’t do. Caley started adding “not included” items (seed, straw, sod, etc.) after getting burned by customers assuming extras.
✅ Add clauses for reality (rock, soil conditions, water table, etc.). He even built a “suitable soil conditions” clause so the job stops until a real conversation happens.
✅ Stop calling yourself a “small business.” Caley explains how the words you use shape how customers treat you — and how you treat yourself. Why it Matters: Because in excavation and land work, profit disappears fast when you guess pricing, stay vague on scope, or let scheduling chaos run your week.
Links
➡️ Check out and follow C & C Land Maintenance LLC’s Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?… ➡️ Shop Attachments: Build your business with the right attachments. https://www.skidsteernation.com ➡️ Marketing Help: Marketing built for blue-collar contractors. https://getthrottledup.com/
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00:14:46 Using vision boards & goal setting to drive growth
00:16:21 Biggest scaling challenge: hiring and keeping great employees
00:18:55 Unique hiring strategy: test skills in real-world conditions
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00:26:06 Early adoption of SEO & embracing new technology
00:33:41 Exit strategy: selling the business after decades of growth
00:57:58 Don’t dwell on bad days—just glance in the rearview mirror
01:08:46 Advice to younger self: show up, be honest, invest in people
00:05:02 First steps into entrepreneurship (buying equipment & side jobs)
00:06:22 Buying first paving machine with no instruction—figuring it out
00:08:00 Surviving the oil embargo & early industry challenges
00:09:24 “Be a warrior, not a worrier” mindset through tough times
00:10:13 First real growth: hiring a salesman changes everything
00:11:16 Scaling up: hiring leadership & building structure
00:11:50 Building an asphalt plant—3-year battle to make it happen
00:13:52 Working nonstop & the reality of “sacrifice” in business
00:14:46 Using vision boards & goal setting to drive growth
00:16:21 Biggest scaling challenge: hiring and keeping great employees
00:18:55 Unique hiring strategy: test skills in real-world conditions
00:22:26 Becoming the go-to company through quality and reliability
00:26:06 Early adoption of SEO & embracing new technology
00:33:41 Exit strategy: selling the business after decades of growth
00:57:58 Don’t dwell on bad days—just glance in the rearview mirror
01:08:46 Advice to younger self: show up, be honest, invest in people
